Survey results

Tout d'abord je tenais à remercier chaleureusement tous les participants au sondage. Vous avez été très nombreux à donner votre avis, bien au-delà des habitués des commentaires ou du forum. Cela prouve qu'il y a une majorité silencieuse derrière ce site, qui fait aussi partie du voyage. Cela me réjouit énormément, même si parfois j'aimerais qu'elle se manifeste un peu plus. On reviendra sur ce point un peu plus loin car j'imagine que vous êtes autant impatients que moi de découvrir quel type de lecteur se cache derrière dividendes.ch et quelles sont ses attentes.

Your age

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The 31 to 45 age group stands out from the crowd, accounting for one out of every two readers. This isn't really a surprise, since at this age you start to earn an income that allows you to save and therefore invest. We're also right in the middle of the Rat Raceto work in order to consume, to put in long hours at work, to be promoted, in short, to follow the downward slope of the global economy against our will. happiness curve.  A cette période, il est également encore suffisamment tôt pour changer son futur, en voulant s'enrichir pour devenir financièrement indépendant et prendre une retraite très tôt. Les 46-60 ans viennent ensuite, avec près de 20% des lecteurs. J'imagine que pour eux la préoccupation est plutôt d'assurer des revenus à la retraite, voire d'anticiper légèrement le départ du monde professionnel. Durant cette période on commence souvent en effet à réaliser la misère que représentent l'AVS et la LPP. Les 61-75 ans représentent étonnamment la 3e force du lectorat, avec 16%. Je ne pensais pas qu'il y ait autant de retraités ou quasi-retraités. Sans doute pour eux s'agit-il d'entretenir le capital et les revenus existants. On trouve ensuite les 16-30 ans, avec à peine plus d'un lecteur sur dix. C'est vrai qu'à cet âge la plupart des personnes ne pensent pas encore à investir, et encore moins à la retraite. Mais il y a des exceptions, et cela me fait plaisir qu'elles soient ici (j'ai moi-même commencé à investir à 25 ans). Autre grosse surprise, nous avons le plaisir d'avoir parmi nous des lecteurs de 76 ans et plus (2%). Quand on pense qu'à cet âge il y en a encore beaucoup qui n'ont même jamais été sur le Net, je dis chapeau. Enfin la tranche des moins de quinze ans n'est pas représentée, ça m'aurait presque inquiété si c'était le cas !

Your business

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Here, too, we have a bracket that clearly stands out, that of the white-collar, administrative and managerial working classes, with 58% of readers. Once again, this is not really a surprise, for much the same reasons as for the 31-45 age group. This category generally has sufficient income to save and invest. It is also often particularly exposed, sandwiched between the imperatives of top management and the needs of the rank and file and/or customers. Then there are the self-employed, with 17%. I imagine that their main concern is to secure their retirement, given that they have no LPP. Next in line are retirees, with 15%, probably for the same reasons as their age category. Then we have a few craftsmen/blue-collar workers (5%) and even a tiny proportion (2%) of students. Phew, the next generation is assured!

Provenance

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Swiss readers account for almost one in two, which is hardly a surprise. Among them, the canton of Vaud, the most populous in French-speaking Switzerland, is logically in the majority, with 16% of the readership. Next come Geneva, with almost one in ten readers, followed by Valais, Fribourg, Neuchâtel and Jura. The rest of Switzerland still accounts for 5%. The French are the second most represented nationality, with almost 40% of the readership. Again, this is not really a surprise, since they frequently take part in discussions by commenting on articles or on the forum. Next come the Belgians, with 5%, a few Quebecers, and then the rest of Europe and the World.

Your goal

Dividends.ch readers are primarily interested in investing (71%), which is consistent with the site's title! Nearly one reader in two wants to become financially independent, and 45% wants to ensure sufficient income for retirement. One in three wants to get out of the Rat Race, and the same proportion wants to retire early (before the age of 58). This last relatively low result is rather surprising. We'll see later, however, that even if it's not your primary goal, you're not really keen on working for very long 🙂 ! For its part, saving only won 29% of intentions and early retirement (from age 58) only 14%. Here too, the results below should be taken with a grain of salt.

Types d'articles préférés

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Headline analyses are the most popular, with over 3/4 of readers. Good news, it's also my favorite theme. Right behind, at 74%, unsurprisingly, are themes on dividends. The themes of financial independence and the stock market in general follow almost equally. The diary of a future annuitant is appreciated by 40% of readers, which isn't so bad given that you don't come here a priori for me to tell you my life story. Note that this one leaves no one indifferent, either loved or hated. I'll come back to this point later. Finally, and I must say this is a disappointment, asset allocation is chosen by only one in three people, even though it requires a fair amount of work on my part. I have to say that I'm surprised by this result, as it seems to me that this is a crucial point in setting up a portfolio, especially these days. In fact, it's a point that should answer some of the questions you put to me, as we'll see below. Being a great fan of the Pareto principle, given the results, I'm inclined to say that, in future, I'll confine myself to publishing the summary table ("Tools" menu), without further comment. I'd be very interested to hear what you have to say on the subject.

Markets of interest

US equities top the podium, with over 3/4 of the votes. Historically speaking, these are also my favorite stocks, thanks to their incredible growing dividends. It's true that over the last two years I've talked less about them, because I think they've become too expensive. But don't worry, I'll be the first to come back to them as soon as I can. Just after, with 73%, we find Swiss equities. Buddy dividinde sometimes talks to you about it. For my part, I'm more discreet at the moment, for the same reasons as the American market, but I'm going to make an effort! Then there are French equities, with almost 2/3 of the readership, which is hardly surprising, given the representation of French readers. I have to apologize here, because it's true that the site is very poor in analyses of French stocks. This will be corrected, especially as the valuations are more attractive than Swiss or American stocks.

Much further out, there's a sort of "soft underbelly", around 40%, with real estate, various ETFs, British, Canadian and Japanese equities, and then a second group around 30%, with all the other equities, gold, oil and commodities. Japanese equities are therefore not cherished, despite their qualities and extremely cheap valuation. As we'll see later, it's access to this market that's the problem, rather than a dislike of Japanese stocks. Those who like them and can invest there can rest assured that I'll continue to talk about this region, which has great potential. Finally, at the end of the ranking, we find bonds, hedge funds and precious metals.

Currencies

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In terms of the currencies in which you invest (currencies, equities, bonds, etc.), the results are somewhat similar to those above, but in a slightly different order. The euro is surprisingly at the top of the podium, with 80% from readers. Next came the USD with 70%, followed by the CHF with 57%. This predominance of the euro (more than double the share of French readers of the blog) means that many Swiss and other nationalities are investing in it. Could this be a sign of a certain "wisdom" on the part of our readers, who are currently investing in cheaper European stocks rather than American or Swiss ones? I'd be interested to hear what you have to say on the subject. Among the other currencies, let's not forget sterling, with a third of the votes, and the Canadian dollar (20%).

Broker / bank used

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Voilà un résultat très intéressant qui secoue un peu le cocotier... Si l'on met de côté les "autres", constitués certainement en grande partie des intermédiaires financiers de nos amis français, belges, québecois, etc..., on constate que les deux brokers low cost, degiro et Interactive Brokers, arrivent bien en tête du classement, avec 22% et 17%. Je dois dire que je suis surpris du résultat de degiro, utilisé carrément par plus d'un lecteur sur cinq. Sur la troisième marche du podium, et premier intermédiaire "classique", Postfinance, avec un bon résultat (15%). Leur politique de prix globalement assez favorable y est sans doute pour quelque chose. Swissquote n'est étonnamment utilisé que par un lecteur sur dix (mais ils sont derrière l'accès e-trading de Postfinance, donc ça reste quand même un poids lourd en Suisse). UBS s'en sort aussi avec 10%, pas si mal, malgré des tarifs totalement rédhibitoires. Étonnant. TradeDirect, le service de la BCV, tient encore assez bien le coup, avec 7%. C'est le successeur d'e-sider dont les vieux de la vieille, se souviennent certainement. Les résultats suivants sont assez décevants, pour ne pas dire calamiteux pour certains. CS et Banque Migros naviguent autour de 4-5%, faisant certainement les frais de leurs prix élevés. Saxo Banque n'est utilisée par 3% des lecteurs, comme toutes les banques cantonales réunies (là aussi des tarifs élevés). Pour finir Strateo et Cornertrader ne sont presque pas utilisés.

L'âge de retraite envisagé

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The least we can say is that you're not determined to work yourself to death! In fact, 83% of readers are thinking of quitting before the age of 65, and even 68% before the age of 61! Better still, with 28% of intentions, it's retirement between the ages of 56 and 60 that garners the most votes. This is no longer early retirement, but early retirement. Retirement between the ages of 51 and 55 is envisaged by 15% of the readership, while more than one person in five is even thinking of retiring between the ages of 40 and 50. Even if the range were wider here, it's still huge. Finally, there's even a handful of readers who are considering quitting altogether before the age of 40! Either they can afford it, or they're very thrifty, disciplined and efficient, or they're very optimistic. Or all of the above. I'd love to hear from them. Anyway, if a pension fund executive came across this diagram, he'd be banging his head against the wall. I love it.

Your loyalty to dividendes.ch

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That's when the tears start coming out... More than one reader in ten has put up with me since the beginning (late 2010)! What self-sacrifice. We're not even far off 40% if you count those who've been here since 2012, which is really the first few years of the site's life. Nearly 2 out of 3 readers have been following dividendes.ch since 2015. All of these people therefore still experienced the period of Global Dividend Growers and other strategies focused on growing dividends, especially American ones, before I had to reorient my approach. In 2017, dissuasive prices on the US markets, combined with a technical change by my data provider at the time, forced me to suspend the site's paying services and redirect my focus towards less expensive stocks, particularly in Japan. With the readers who arrived at that time, we now have a total of 83% of those surveyed, which is a very good sign of your loyalty. However, I'm also pleased to see that there are almost 17% new readers, a sign that the theme is also attracting new people.

Your satisfaction

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Once again, I almost feel like crying. Nearly 2 out of 3 readers are happy, and a third are outright "big fans". There are still a few readers who think it's "passable" and nobody has pressed "not happy". Thanks to your comments and suggestions, which we'll discuss later, I hope to be able to improve these results even further in the future. In any case, thank you for your compliments and encouragement.

Free

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The verdict is clear. 84% of you want the site to remain free. At the same time, I didn't really expect any other result. The paid subscriptions of the time certainly had their share of regulars, but that already represented a small minority. Given the extra work involved, it wasn't worth it. To do so, we'd have to provide a more professional service, which would mean more expense, more hassle and less free will. We're a long way from the idea of a passive income with a site like this. Being free also assures you of the coherence of my approach, because it's the dividends that fill my piggy bank, not your subscriptions. On the other hand, I'm obliged to allow advertising, at least to cover hosting costs.

Your comments and suggestions

Many of you have left me thanks, compliments and suggestions. Thank you for your concern.

I will try to set them out below, grouping them by theme:

Forum

"Too bad the forum isn't more lively (more exchange between people)"

"Bringing the forum to life
I started this forum at the request of a reader, and had a well-founded fear that it wasn't being used enough. At the time, I even launched prediction contests, with free subscriptions to the member section, which was paying at the time. I'd also really like to see this forum expand, to have something worthy of the name in Switzerland too. Unfortunately, when a reader posts a topic, I'm usually the only one to reply. I also very often have readers who write to me privately via the contact form to ask investment-related questions. Each time I redirect them to the forum, but it doesn't work.
So I'm calling on you. Post, reply, give your opinion. As one reader told me, "the discussions following the articles are often very interesting". I agree. And we could do the same thing in the forum, but for that you have to go there! As another reader pointed out: "Collective intelligence enables us to move forward faster and further. I think that helping each other, and the knowledge and expertise each person brings to the table, is the key to success, and is more beneficial than staying on your own and keeping everything to yourself".
If you have any ideas for revitalizing the forum, I'd love to hear from you. For example, a reader suggested opening a "live chat" between members. I'll think about it, but it's a bit of the same problem, you'll just have to jump in.

Diary of a future rentier

As mentioned above, the newspaper leaves no one indifferent. It's either a hit or a miss.

"Keep up the good work! I enjoy reading your Journal, even if it's not necessarily finance-related."

"Hello, I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your articles and in particular the diary of a future annuitantI appreciate the mindset you demonstrate."

"I hate to break it to you, but The Diary of a Future Annuitant is totally uninteresting."

I understand those who don't like it. You're not here to listen to my life. The reason I've decided to write this series of articles is to share with you my path to financial independence, so that you can see for yourself the successes and difficulties of this path. One day, I'll stop writing about it, because I'll be an annuitant, so I'll have even more time to talk about the subjects that are important to you and to me: dividend-paying securities. In the meantime, for those of you who don't like it, don't worry. My diary isn't completed very often... my life isn't interesting enough for that!

Paid subscription

"I used to be a paying member, and I'd still gladly pay, but a few dozen a month is a lot."

"Thanks again for your blog: the articles are very good. I'm willing to pay up to 120 EUR per year for premium articles and information."

As mentioned before, I will continue to provide a free service.

Markets / analysis

"I have a Pea as my only equity investment vehicle (but the stocks you analyze don't fit into this envelope, unfortunately)".

As discussed above, I'll be analyzing more French titles in the future.

"Present funds of Japanese securities, as it is virtually impossible to buy live securities in France."

Funds can never be anything other than funds, a kind of mishmash of a few good stocks among a mass of more or less questionable companies. Either it's a fund administered by a "right-thinking" manager, taking a few percentage points a year from your capital and almost never beating the market, as has been proven time and time again, or it's an index fund, and there, even if it costs you less, you end up with "the market" in all its glory. Mixing the wrong wines never made a good blend. That said, if your aim is simply to take a minority position in the Japanese market for diversification purposes, the least bad approach in your case, given that you don't have access to this market, would be to buy an ETF such as those offered by iShares, e.g. ISJP (small caps, TER 0.58%) or SJPA (all company sizes, TER 0.15%), also available in France. 

Other questions

"We're probably heading for a eurozone crisis, a global recession... knowing how you're going to react and act will be very interesting. Thank you."

Yes, probably. Even for sure. It could happen tomorrow, or in a month, or a year, or several years. No one can know. The important thing is not to try to find out when, but rather to adopt an approach that takes these risks into account, by diversifyingvia an intelligent asset allocation. A capital protection strategy can also be useful. As for reacting, I don't really like that term, because it implies that you haven't thought things through beforehand. But if by that you mean taking advantage of opportunities in a bear market, then yes, it can be a form of reaction. But it's important not to rush things, and to let the market settle down and come back to it gradually. This is typically the kind of question that could have been debated on the forum!

"How to avoid the traps?"

An excellent (and vast) question. As the saying goes, the devil is in the detail. I'll answer your question in one of my next articles.

Various suggestions

"Try, if possible, to publish more articles".

Yes, I promise I'll try. On the other hand, I'm also trying to put into practice the Epicurean principles I often share here. Time is a very precious commodity. I fought to get back some of the time my employers stole from me. I like writing here, but I don't want to spend my days behind my screen either. It's true that I wasn't very active during the summer vacations, but that's about to change.

"Training or workshops, courses".

It's kind of the same problem. It takes time, a lot of time, much more than writing an article. But it's a good idea.

"The addition of content in video format would be welcome, otherwise it's top! Thanks again for all your hard work!"

Thank you. Here again, it takes more work and therefore more time. It's true that video brings something more convivial and less austere. On the other hand, I can't help thinking about my kids who spend their time watching rubbish on Youtube. Ditto when I come across CNBC. The written word has the advantage of engaging our brains more and therefore making us see things differently, in a more thoughtful and original way.

"It would be interesting to know the income demographics of readers via an anonymous survey."

The age, activity and goals of our readers lead us to believe that they tend to be upper-middle class. This is a question that could indeed be asked in a future survey, and everyone can answer it if they wish. Another question that comes to mind is stock market experience, in terms of number of years, also to be added next time.

"organize a "community drink" somewhere :-)"
This question has been bothering me for some time now, torn between the need for anonymity and the need to belong... I'm sure the idea still has some way to go.
"Interviews with other investors, financiers, bankers, retirees... about their experiences, advice and mistakes."
That's a good idea. If anyone would like to get started, please take contact avec moi. Sinon, avez-vous de votre côté des personnes en particulier que vous souhaiteriez interroger, Trump mis-à-part 🙂 ?

Conclusion

Once again, many thanks for your participation and all your comments and encouragement. It encourages me to continue on this path and even make a few improvements in the future, notably more analyses of American, Swiss and French stocks.

Finally, don't hesitate to react below. I'd be particularly happy to hear from senior citizens, craftsmen/blue collar workers, professionals, students, readers from outside French-speaking Switzerland or exotic regions.

Thanks again for your loyalty!


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2 thoughts on “Résultats du sondage”

  1. Thank you for this very interesting summary! I was also surprised by some of the results, for example as regards the origin of readers and the choice of brokers.

    Asset allocation isn't one of my favorite items either, mainly because I believe it shouldn't vary too much from one year to the next, and that trying to change it from one month to the next is almost like market timing. What's more, I prefer rebalancing and, in any case, the current situation is completely distorted by low or even negative bond interest rates.

    Keep up your excellent work, it's so important to be able to read financial articles that are neutral, which isn't possible when you go to a financial intermediary. I look forward to reading you for the next 50 years 😉

    1. Thanks ferot! Not sure in 50 years I'll still be fit to do it 🙂
      On the subject of neutrality and intermediaries, I'm preparing an article to be published this week.
      Asset allocation is also about rebalancing (in fact, that's what it's all about). And low interest rates are precisely one of the determinants of allocation. The approach seems to be misinterpreted. Just because a situation report is drawn up every month doesn't mean that the target allocation changes every month. Not only is it fairly stable, but above all it's an allocation targetIt's a line to follow. For example, if European equities go from invested to light, I'm not going to sell all my European stocks. On the other hand, I'm going to stop buying them, or even separate myself from those whose fundamentals and/or momentum are deteriorating (if this hasn't already been done). As for the cash target, I'm not going to start buying or selling like crazy to reach this rate at the end of the following month. This just gives me a path to follow for the next few months, and I readjust everything quietly. I don't see this as market timing, but just as risk management, based on stock valuation and momentum, as well as interest rates.

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