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  • #16323

    Are there any good opportunities at the moment at the European level to be able to put this in a PEA (I don't know if it also exists in Switzerland)?

    #16578
    Jerome
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      Unfortunately I can't find growing dividends as good in Europe as in the United States.
      The only title that holds up a little to comparison is Sanofi.

      PEAs do not exist under this name in Switzerland, but I imagine that it is a bit like a 3rd pillar, tax-free, to finance a retirement. You can buy investment funds on this type of account, linked to stocks/bonds.

      #16579

      It is tax-free but in return if you withdraw the money before a certain number of years it closes automatically and is reserved for European shares.
      Well, on a dividend strategy, we don't care about the blocking.

      Hence the interest in putting European shares in it.

      But I can't find anything that holds up in terms of payout ratio in Europe.

      #16580
      spark
      Participant

        Good morning,

        For Europe it seems that it is possible to start from S&P Europe 350 Dividend Aristocrats. It offers a list of companies with a minimum capitalization of 3 billion and increasing their dividends for 10 years. Here is the list retrieved today

        30-May-2012 Constituent Name Constituent Symbol
        AMEC AMEC
        Abertis Infraestructuras SA ABE
        Aggreko AGK
        Associated British Foods ABF
        AstraZeneca Plc AZN
        Atlantia SpA ATL
        BAE Systems Plc BA/
        BHP Billiton Plc BLT
        British American Tobacco Plc BATS
        Bunzl BNZL
        Capita Group CPI
        Centrica CNA
        Cobham COB
        Compass Group CPG
        Danone BN
        Diageo Plc DGE
        Fresenius Medical FME
        GlaxoSmithKline GSK
        Hermes Intl RMS
        Imperial Tobacco IMT
        Johnson, Matthey JMAT
        Kerry Group A KYG
        Royal KPN NV KPN
        L'Oreal OR
        Nestle SA Reg NESN
        Novartis AG Reg NOVN
        Novo Nordisk AS B NOVOB
        Novozymes AS B NZYMB
        Pearson PSON
        RSA Insurance Group Plc RSA
        Red Electrica Corporacion SA REE
        Roche Hldgs AG Ptg Genus ROG
        Royal Dutch Shell PLC RDSA
        Sage Group SGE
        Sanofi-Aventis SAN
        Scottish & Southern Energy SSE
        Serco Group SRP
        Swedish Match AB SWMA
        Tesco TSCO
        Vodafone Group VOD

        For my part, I retrieve my lists of companies from businessweek (being a programmer it helps ;) ).
        It may be interesting, as Philippe Proudon (the happy investor) points out, to look at two ratios: gross margin > 60%, which indicates what Buffet calls pricing power, and the Capital expenditure / operating result ratio in addition to the ratios cited by Jérôme.

        For my part, I already apply a filter when I retrieve the list of companies. I eliminate of course those which do not pay any dividends, those which are less than 10 years old, those which are listed on a market not accessible by my bank/broker.

        #16581
        Jerome
        Participant

          I know the S&P European Dividend Aristocrats well, which undeniably contains some excellent stocks.
          I also have some of them in my portfolio
          The problem with these stocks is that many of them cannot demonstrate a dividend growth history as good as US stocks.
          That doesn't mean they're bad, just that the strength of growing dividends is a little less clear.

          #16582

          Good morning,

          I confirm the difficulty in finding good companies with a long history of increasing dividends for a PEA.
          It is true that you can choose European companies, but be careful with the withholding tax on the dividend: in many foreign countries, when the dividend is paid, a withholding tax is levied (generally around fifteen %).
          Within the framework of a securities account, one can benefit from a tax credit allowing one to recover part (or all depending on the country) of the withholding tax.
          But in a PEA, you are not entitled to it: this deduction is lost…

          Sincerely,

          #16583
          spark
          Participant

            Good morning,

            It still seems to me that we should try to diversify the sources of dividends in monetary terms. I heard an interview yesterday with Delamarche who advised this diversification given the current turbulence. Anything in USD or Euro can present a danger in the event of a currency crash.

            What do you think?

            Sincerely

            #16584

            Good morning,

            Of course you have to diversify, but with a PEA it's very difficult when you're focused on dividend aristocrats:
            – FR shares do not have a strong dividend history, but the advantage is that there is no withholding tax on dividends.
            – some European stocks are very nice but the withholding tax on dividends hurts in the context of a PEA. -10% -15% on your return…

            And it is not possible to have US shares in a PEA, only European ones.

            Sincerely,

            #16585
            Jerome
            Participant

              I have long racked my brain over the problem of the lack of good dividend-growing stocks outside the US and the currency risk (USD)

              I talk about it in my series of articles which starts here

              The best thing I've found so far is to pick US stocks that benefit from a weak dollar (multinationals and commodities sector)

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